{"id":49440,"date":"2024-09-29T23:31:53","date_gmt":"2024-09-29T20:31:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.al-sindbad.net\/sinking-chinese-sub-shows-the-new-speedy-nature-of-naval-intelligence\/49440\/"},"modified":"2024-09-29T23:31:53","modified_gmt":"2024-09-29T20:31:53","slug":"sinking-chinese-sub-shows-the-new-speedy-nature-of-naval-intelligence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.al-sindbad.net\/sinking-chinese-sub-shows-the-new-speedy-nature-of-naval-intelligence\/49440\/","title":{"rendered":"Sinking Chinese Sub Shows the New, Speedy Nature of Naval Intelligence"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>[By Sam Roggeveen]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Earlier this year, the eagle-eyed American observer of China&#039;s military, Tom Shugart, spotted some&nbsp;unusual activity&nbsp;at a Chinese shipyard. Tom is a former US Navy submariner who these days spends a lot of time examining satellite photos and then piecing these together with other bits of evidence appearing on the internet to form sharp judgments about the rapid modernisation of China&#039;s military. You can get a sense of Shugart&#039;s work through&nbsp;this paper&nbsp;he wrote for the Lowy Institute in 2021.<\/p>\n<p>In this case, the satellite photos appeared to show a number of crane barges clustered around a submarine that was docked at Wuchang Shipyard, where China is known to build diesel-electric submarines and surface ships for its navy.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The incident occurred in May. The reason to mention it now is that&nbsp;The Wall Street Journal&nbsp;has just run a story&nbsp;with quotes from anonymous US government sources claiming that the submarine in question sank while pier-side. The activity spotted by Shugart therefore may have been a salvage operation.<\/p>\n<p>There are some unusual elements to this story, the main one being that the submarine in question is a previously unheard of new design called the Type 041, which according to the US government source is nuclear-powered. Yet the Wuchang Shipyard isn&#039;t known for producing nuclear-powered submarines. Also, can a submarine even sink in what are apparently very shallow waters? The&nbsp;Journal&nbsp;story says &quot;American officials haven&rsquo;t detected any indication that Chinese officials have sampled the water or nearby environment for radiation.&quot;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Observers are already speculating about what this means for China&#039;s effort to modernise its submarine fleet, with&nbsp;this article&nbsp;playing down the broader significance. India&#039;s Observer Research Foundation&nbsp;recently published&nbsp;an analysis of a new shipyard in China that will pump out new designs at a more rapid pace than the United States can match. We might see this incident as evidence that China&#039;s military is&nbsp;suffering under the weight of corruption. Then again, submarine accidents are not unheard of, even in the most competent military forces.<\/p>\n<p>It&#039;s also worth considering the motives behind the US government&#039;s decision to release this information to&nbsp;The Wall Street Journal. Who gains? Certainly, it creates embarrassment for China, but it may also be that, in this case, the United States has adopted a &quot;use it or lose it&quot; approach to its intelligence. As&nbsp;Interpreter&nbsp;contributor Ben Scott argued&nbsp;in March:&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left:40px\">&#8230;the age-old trade-off between preserving and using intelligence is shifting in favour of use&#8230;The United States and United Kingdom&#8230;sought to operationalise intelligence in the lead-up to Russia&rsquo;s 2022 invasion of Ukraine, declassifying and disseminating material with extraordinary speed and breadth.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left:40px\">The shift in favour of operationalising intelligence is driven by both intensifying geopolitical competition and the rapidly evolving information environment. The digital revolution is disrupting &ldquo;business as usual&rdquo;, including by breaking down Cold War categories of &ldquo;secret&rdquo; and &ldquo;open-source&rdquo; information. Secrets have a reduced shelf life.<\/p>\n<p>Because open source intelligence is now so ubiquitous (including satellite imagery of a standard that was once the sole province of intelligence agencies), governments are erring further on the side of disclosure to maximise the political impact of their secrets.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, it&rsquo;s worth noting that Chinese netizens are claiming the entire story is bogus. That may yet turn out to be true, but this would be a high-risk strategy on America&rsquo;s part. The &ldquo;operationalising&rdquo; of intelligence only works if the media organisations you are leaking to actually believe you. The declassification of Russia&rsquo;s invasion preparations was a success for the US because it turned out to be accurate, so the US would seem to have good reason to avoid releasing information that can be easily falsified.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Sam Roggeveen is Director of the Lowy Institute&rsquo;s&nbsp;International Security Program. He is the author of&nbsp;The Echidna Strategy: Australia&rsquo;s Search for Power and Peace, published by La Trobe University Press in 2023.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Before joining the Lowy Institute, Sam was a senior strategic analyst in Australia&rsquo;s peak intelligence agency, the Office of National Assessments, where his work dealt mainly with North Asian strategic affairs, including nuclear strategy and Asian military forces.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>This article appears courtesy of The Lowy Interpreter and may be found in its original form <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lowyinstitute.org\/the-interpreter\/chinese-subs-american-spies-both-get-sinking-feeling\">here<\/a>.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>maritime-executive<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; [By Sam Roggeveen] Earlier this year, the eagle-eyed American observer of China&#039;s military, Tom Shugart, spotted some&nbsp;unusual activity&nbsp;at a Chinese shipyard. 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